Accessible Intercourse 3: How offensive is the word 'retard'?
Posted by toshio on 2009-10-20 in accessible intercourse
This week: 1. making out with deaf guys just because they're deaf; 2. disabled and pregnant?; 3. calling Dan Savage: defamation alternatives. Post your questions here.
TRANSCRIPT
Caitlin: What questions do we have?
Toshio: Well, we have one question, and it's from Gabby in Berkeley, California, and it says, "I made out with a deaf guy just to see if I could make out with a deaf guy, and is that wrong?"
C: OK.
T: It's a good question, and I have to say, I don't think that it's the worst thing that you could ever do.
C: No, and how does Gabby know that this deaf guy wasn't just trying to make out with a hearing girl?
T: That's true - he could've been playing the same thing on her, that she thought she was playing on him.
C: A lot of times I think the stigma that's attached to disability makes able-bodied people want you even more.
T: Just a little bit.
C: Because it makes it dangerous, and it's something you're not supposed to be attracted to…
T: It's something new.
C: …even though a lot of disabled people are super-attractive and sexy. Who knows what his intentions were. No. So the ultimate answer is no, it wasn't wrong.
T: It's fine - go for it.
C: It's fine, if he was cute, go for it. Who cares? I hope it was good.
T: Can a disabled girl have a baby?
C: Yes.
T: Yes. Yes. Have you seen it with your own eyes?
C: Yes, I have.
T: Well, then I guess there's proof.
C: [Laughs.]
T: I think it really depends on the disability that we're speaking about, so that's pretty general.
C: Right, I don't really know what that was in reference to, but yes, disabled women can have babies, for sure.
T: OK.
T: What's wrong with calling somebody a retard?
C: OK.
T: What is wrong with calling somebody a retard?
C: Um, it's really offensive.
T: I think it's pretty - I think it's considered - I wouldn't say that it's up there… Well, maybe it is - in terms of, like, the n-word and the r-word?
C: N-word…
T: How close?
C: You know, Dan Savage actually recently wrote something where he said that the word 'retard' wasn't as offensive as, you know, racial epithets, or, you know, gay slurs.
T: OK.
C: Which I disagree with. I think they are equally offensive. I think we're just not conditioned to put them on the same kind of level as those kind of slurs. It's just a really - I mean it's hateful, and it's just stupid, it's denigrating, and it's dismissive, and just come up with something a little more intelligent, that's all.
T: Like?
C: Like jagweed.
T: [Laughs.]
C: Or douchebag. Those are good words.
T: That is a good one. I use it often.
T: So creativity is key, is what you're saying?
C: Yeah, put a little creativity into your slurs. Make it interesting.
TRANSCRIPT
Caitlin: What questions do we have?
Toshio: Well, we have one question, and it's from Gabby in Berkeley, California, and it says, "I made out with a deaf guy just to see if I could make out with a deaf guy, and is that wrong?"
C: OK.
T: It's a good question, and I have to say, I don't think that it's the worst thing that you could ever do.
C: No, and how does Gabby know that this deaf guy wasn't just trying to make out with a hearing girl?
T: That's true - he could've been playing the same thing on her, that she thought she was playing on him.
C: A lot of times I think the stigma that's attached to disability makes able-bodied people want you even more.
T: Just a little bit.
C: Because it makes it dangerous, and it's something you're not supposed to be attracted to…
T: It's something new.
C: …even though a lot of disabled people are super-attractive and sexy. Who knows what his intentions were. No. So the ultimate answer is no, it wasn't wrong.
T: It's fine - go for it.
C: It's fine, if he was cute, go for it. Who cares? I hope it was good.
T: Can a disabled girl have a baby?
C: Yes.
T: Yes. Yes. Have you seen it with your own eyes?
C: Yes, I have.
T: Well, then I guess there's proof.
C: [Laughs.]
T: I think it really depends on the disability that we're speaking about, so that's pretty general.
C: Right, I don't really know what that was in reference to, but yes, disabled women can have babies, for sure.
T: OK.
T: What's wrong with calling somebody a retard?
C: OK.
T: What is wrong with calling somebody a retard?
C: Um, it's really offensive.
T: I think it's pretty - I think it's considered - I wouldn't say that it's up there… Well, maybe it is - in terms of, like, the n-word and the r-word?
C: N-word…
T: How close?
C: You know, Dan Savage actually recently wrote something where he said that the word 'retard' wasn't as offensive as, you know, racial epithets, or, you know, gay slurs.
T: OK.
C: Which I disagree with. I think they are equally offensive. I think we're just not conditioned to put them on the same kind of level as those kind of slurs. It's just a really - I mean it's hateful, and it's just stupid, it's denigrating, and it's dismissive, and just come up with something a little more intelligent, that's all.
T: Like?
C: Like jagweed.
T: [Laughs.]
C: Or douchebag. Those are good words.
T: That is a good one. I use it often.
T: So creativity is key, is what you're saying?
C: Yeah, put a little creativity into your slurs. Make it interesting.





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