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Accessible Intercourse 3: How offensive is the word 'retard'?

Posted by toshio on 2009-10-20 in accessible intercourse
This week: 1. making out with deaf guys just because they're deaf; 2. disabled and pregnant?; 3. calling Dan Savage: defamation alternatives. Post your questions here.



TRANSCRIPT

Caitlin: What questions do we have?

Toshio: Well, we have one question, and it's from Gabby in Berkeley, California, and it says, "I made out with a deaf guy just to see if I could make out with a deaf guy, and is that wrong?"

C: OK.

T: It's a good question, and I have to say, I don't think that it's the worst thing that you could ever do.

C: No, and how does Gabby know that this deaf guy wasn't just trying to make out with a hearing girl?

T: That's true - he could've been playing the same thing on her, that she thought she was playing on him.

C: A lot of times I think the stigma that's attached to disability makes able-bodied people want you even more.

T: Just a little bit.

C: Because it makes it dangerous, and it's something you're not supposed to be attracted to…

T: It's something new.

C: …even though a lot of disabled people are super-attractive and sexy. Who knows what his intentions were. No. So the ultimate answer is no, it wasn't wrong.

T: It's fine - go for it.

C: It's fine, if he was cute, go for it. Who cares? I hope it was good.

T: Can a disabled girl have a baby?

C: Yes.

T: Yes. Yes. Have you seen it with your own eyes?

C: Yes, I have.

T: Well, then I guess there's proof.

C: [Laughs.]

T: I think it really depends on the disability that we're speaking about, so that's pretty general.

C: Right, I don't really know what that was in reference to, but yes, disabled women can have babies, for sure.

T: OK.

T: What's wrong with calling somebody a retard?

C: OK.

T: What is wrong with calling somebody a retard?

C: Um, it's really offensive.

T: I think it's pretty - I think it's considered - I wouldn't say that it's up there… Well, maybe it is - in terms of, like, the n-word and the r-word?

C: N-word…

T: How close?

C: You know, Dan Savage actually recently wrote something where he said that the word 'retard' wasn't as offensive as, you know, racial epithets, or, you know, gay slurs.

T: OK.

C: Which I disagree with. I think they are equally offensive. I think we're just not conditioned to put them on the same kind of level as those kind of slurs. It's just a really - I mean it's hateful, and it's just stupid, it's denigrating, and it's dismissive, and just come up with something a little more intelligent, that's all.

T: Like?

C: Like jagweed.

T: [Laughs.]

C: Or douchebag. Those are good words.

T: That is a good one. I use it often.

T: So creativity is key, is what you're saying?

C: Yeah, put a little creativity into your slurs. Make it interesting.

3 comments so far

Posted by siiri on 2009-10-20
hey guys, Here's a Q for your next installment: How do you handle friends that don't see the harm in using slurs in front of you, such as F-g, R---rd, etc.? Most people know it's wrong, but there's still those Bill and Ted kids that haven't given it up yet. How to make them see the light?
Posted by lulu on 2009-10-21
great, thoughtful question. Thanks Siiri!
Posted by kat* on 2009-10-21
very good question; I second the request.

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